I recently changed my backhand rubber to a Nittaku Sieger PK 50, red 2.0mm. My previous BH rubber was a Tibhar MX-S. Sieger is an improvement over MX-S in all aspects: control, spin, ease of use, gears and final speed. The feature I liked most was its gears. Slow when slow looping, but very fast when engaging a full motion halfway from the table. It does not show big catapult effect. The ease of use is also a highlight of this rubber. It has a big dwell time, and combined with my blade, Xiom Zetro Quad, which has also a big dwell, the whole setup gives superb feeling and you have a sensation every shot lands on the table. Overall characteristics: semi-hard sponge, medium-heavy (cut to a 157x150 blade), slightly tacky topsheet, medium-high throw angle. I can not say about durability yet. Ow, and a tip: it collects dust easily, must be cleaned every 10 minutes.
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28 Reviews for Nittaku Sieger PK50
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These reviews are spot on if you take the time to read em all. Here's my take: Advances in rubber tech since the celluloid ball and the numerous plastic ball changes had me chasing a Chinese inspired forehand rubber that was good at serve, push, flick and brush or drive. Ideally, it would also be fast enough for passive blocking and stable enough to flat hit with. With celluloid I was happy with Stiga Genesis or DHS Tinarc, as Chinese Hybrids, both did everything well enough and had just enough "sauce" to let you know that they were better than Euro rubbers when playing inside the table. Fast forward a decade and I have used things like K1 and K3 for the past few years. K1 was a bit too soft and slow, but otherwise did everything well enough. K3 was a monster as long as driving and was even great when out of position, but it flat hit poorly/erratically, with strange sponge disengagement. A thin sheet (1.6, called Mid thick?) Pk50 does everything well enough, on a Virtuoso Carbon AC blade, with no glaring weaknesses. I really feel like this rubber fits how I play now, and how I want to play going further (a little further back from table, using spin, angles and drives to apply pressure).
High spin but cannot be compared to 09c, arc is similar to 09c. The arc is not that good, quite high. Serve receive is not as good. I suggest you use rakza z extra hard instead of this rubber. It's a fun rubber to try, but not something you should use in the long term. The rubber sits at a very awkward price. If it was around $25 then I would consider. I suggest you find other rubbers instead of this. There are many other better forehand rubber such as battle2 provincial/national for half the price and offers higher speed and higher control with similar spin and much much better arc. This rubber is fine for backhand, not bad at all.
USATT 1500 level intermediate. 2 wing looping, close/mid distance, OFF- game.
Fantastic, balanced rubber. Truly on par with 09c. This is the first I've encountered that matches that unique feeling rubber. I have an IF ALC w/ a black sheet of pk 50 and a black sheet of 09C (a red sheet of pk 50 is in the mail to make me legal), and I struggle to tell the difference when I do a blind test.
I'm coming from Vega Euro on my BH, which I replaced with pk50. Though very different animals, the speed is pretty similar. However, I get much more depth, penetration, and spin with pk 50. The contrast is most stark with serves, where the pk 50 cuts nasty underspin with ease (and my VE often gets flicked and eatenfor lunch). I've never had a piece of equipment make such a difference with a particular stroke.
VE is a safer, more controlled rubber, but not by a whole lot. I would say that the relatively high throw of pk50 has been the only thing that has been a (minor, doable) challenge. This rubber feels perfect for someone like me who is trying to move beyond intermediate status. It is very stable and linear, and I can hit full strokes with confidence. Unlike say T05, it is slow enough to force me to learn proper stroke technique on what are (for me anyways) harder shots on which to add pace (e.g. BH loops from greater than 1 meter off the table). At the same time, it has every gear I need when I add some muscle to shots or slow thjngs down for more a more spin oriented strategy.
I read another review that this rubber is a jack of all trades but a master of none. This is spot on IMO. PK 50 may not be the absolute best in any particular category (though the spin is up there in my view); however, it has no weaknesses. I love that while it suits my needs already, I can grow into it for a long time. The "thick" 1.8 version is perfect for me even though I normally go for 1.9-2.1mm.
Bravo Nittaku. At nearly the half the cost of 09c, they have created an equal rubber
Fantastic, balanced rubber. Truly on par with 09c. This is the first I've encountered that matches that unique feeling rubber. I have an IF ALC w/ a black sheet of pk 50 and a black sheet of 09C (a red sheet of pk 50 is in the mail to make me legal), and I struggle to tell the difference when I do a blind test.
I'm coming from Vega Euro on my BH, which I replaced with pk50. Though very different animals, the speed is pretty similar. However, I get much more depth, penetration, and spin with pk 50. The contrast is most stark with serves, where the pk 50 cuts nasty underspin with ease (and my VE often gets flicked and eatenfor lunch). I've never had a piece of equipment make such a difference with a particular stroke.
VE is a safer, more controlled rubber, but not by a whole lot. I would say that the relatively high throw of pk50 has been the only thing that has been a (minor, doable) challenge. This rubber feels perfect for someone like me who is trying to move beyond intermediate status. It is very stable and linear, and I can hit full strokes with confidence. Unlike say T05, it is slow enough to force me to learn proper stroke technique on what are (for me anyways) harder shots on which to add pace (e.g. BH loops from greater than 1 meter off the table). At the same time, it has every gear I need when I add some muscle to shots or slow thjngs down for more a more spin oriented strategy.
I read another review that this rubber is a jack of all trades but a master of none. This is spot on IMO. PK 50 may not be the absolute best in any particular category (though the spin is up there in my view); however, it has no weaknesses. I love that while it suits my needs already, I can grow into it for a long time. The "thick" 1.8 version is perfect for me even though I normally go for 1.9-2.1mm.
Bravo Nittaku. At nearly the half the cost of 09c, they have created an equal rubber
I'm an amateur player at an intermediate level. I prefer allround style close to table and at mid-distance.
I play Nittaku Piecea (5-ply hinoki woods) with Nittaku Sieger PK 50 (2,0) on my FH and Andro Hexer Grip SFX (1,9) on my BH.
Nittaku Sieger PK 50 is an amazing rubber, the best I ever had. Very spinny with a huge control and moderate speed without unpredictable catapult effect. That combination is perfect for me. I can play various types of shots and each of them is diificult for my opponent. This Nittaku rubber helps create a great serves too and is not very sensitive to incoming rotation. The only thing to keep in mind is that you should probably use more power to your strokes compared to the other rubbers you used before.
I highly recommend this rubber to everyone who likes technical game close to table with the wide range of strokes.
To sum up, my rating for Nittaku Sieger PK50 (in scale 1 to 10) is:
Speed = 7,5
Spin = 9,5
Control = 9,8
I play Nittaku Piecea (5-ply hinoki woods) with Nittaku Sieger PK 50 (2,0) on my FH and Andro Hexer Grip SFX (1,9) on my BH.
Nittaku Sieger PK 50 is an amazing rubber, the best I ever had. Very spinny with a huge control and moderate speed without unpredictable catapult effect. That combination is perfect for me. I can play various types of shots and each of them is diificult for my opponent. This Nittaku rubber helps create a great serves too and is not very sensitive to incoming rotation. The only thing to keep in mind is that you should probably use more power to your strokes compared to the other rubbers you used before.
I highly recommend this rubber to everyone who likes technical game close to table with the wide range of strokes.
To sum up, my rating for Nittaku Sieger PK50 (in scale 1 to 10) is:
Speed = 7,5
Spin = 9,5
Control = 9,8
Medium tacky, medium throw angle. Speed is like 8 of 10. Spin is really good. It not hard at all, so if you into something that can replace rakza z or dignics 09c but with softer feel this one will be the best choice. Pk50 little softer and less speed, so has little bit less power far from the table than those two that i mentioned above. Overall really good rubber for backhand (especially for those who cant stand 50 sponge hardness) for its price. Trying it out for backhand now with Apolonia zlc, will see how it goes =)
Been using this rubber for 6 month now. Such a nice feeling rubber when you are hiting the ball. Using it on Xiom Ice cream Azxi blade on the ALZ side. I think myself that it feels the best on a harder Rackets then an allround one. Like another one said here. Kinda the same feeling as a Dignic 09c aldo without the "bouncing effect" that Tenergy/Dignics usally have when hitting the ball. So you are felling the ball more when hitting it.
PERFECT for a playing attacking close to the table. Try this rubber out if you get the chance and just "commit" to every shot!
PERFECT for a playing attacking close to the table. Try this rubber out if you get the chance and just "commit" to every shot!
Very nice rubber. My 1st time using Nittaku rubber and really satisfy. Can spin even lose of balance. Hopefully can using for longer time.
Someone before me already wrote, my new rubber for a long time. I agree with this statement for my BH where I have tried it and using it right now. I have to add, that blocking game become a piece of cake with this one compared to my previous BH rubbers, rasanter R48 and R53. Spin moreless about the same, as it is very hard to state how much spin is generated. Overall, very controllabe, direct (meaning that the trajectory of a shot is exacaltly how I ment to be), springy more than chinees rubbers but less that european rubbers. I would recommend it on a BH.
This, together with Yazaka Z, Rising Dragon and, Tibhar Hybrid K1 is the best rubbers for me in the "new" generation with a mix of Chinese Spin and European speed. There is alot, i have tried approx. 75% of them, and as said this is best together with Rakza Z, On my 15 blades, i have the mentioned rubbers on 10 of them, as FH, and mostly Tibhar MX-P or Yasaka Rigan on bh. The rest 5 blades (8 Nittaku, 3 Stiga, 2 Butterfly and 1 TSP) i have the new Tibhar EVO MX-D, rASANTER r48 and as always my older favourite Nittaku Fastarc G1. Buy them and try them!
The best rubber I have tried, wonderful spin and control, good speed, I have previously played with JOOLA Dynaryz ACC, Tenergy 05-Fx, Dignics 05, Hurricane 3 National, all very good but I think this is superior in addition to having a very good price
I changed rubber on my second bat to Rakza Z.
For the first time i tried a tacky hybrid rubber. It took some time to adjust but after a while i realy started to like it. My thought was to change my forehand rubber on my first bat to something similar. After reading som reveiws my choise was Sieger PK/50.
I dont think there are many similaritys between theese two rubbers.
The tackiness is barly notable but the topsheet is soft an very grippy/spinny.
On backhand i have Stiga DNA M. I think PK50 plays similar to the DNA but with moore spin. Its spin sensitive therefore sometimes a bit hard to control . . . . but I like that.
For the first time i tried a tacky hybrid rubber. It took some time to adjust but after a while i realy started to like it. My thought was to change my forehand rubber on my first bat to something similar. After reading som reveiws my choise was Sieger PK/50.
I dont think there are many similaritys between theese two rubbers.
The tackiness is barly notable but the topsheet is soft an very grippy/spinny.
On backhand i have Stiga DNA M. I think PK50 plays similar to the DNA but with moore spin. Its spin sensitive therefore sometimes a bit hard to control . . . . but I like that.
This rubber is an almost perfect rubber. It's basically the dignics 09c with less tackiness, lasts longer, and produces more spin, WITH LESS PRICE. For the past 2 weeks im using this rubber (FH), paired with fastarc c-1 (BH) using stiga legacy carbon blade, topspins are just AMAZING. In my opinion this rubber is just amazing. Way ahead of the 09c or bluegrip c2 in my opinion.
Medium tacky with great spin capability. Medium fast with good control. Throw angle is medium high so it is good to lift the underspin. Overall, it is a great rubber, similar to Dignic 09C.
I compare it with Dignics 09c, I have been using Zeiger Pk 50, 3 months the feeling is almost the same as D09c But PK50 is softer, Performance is slightly below D09c, but PK50 wins in very comfortable control. I prefer PK50 Half price D09c. Above PK50 is Yasaka Rakza Z Stickiness and Spin makes high spin.
PK50 is a great rubber, capable of high spin levels, good speed and control is above average, although it does seem to be slightly spin sensitive.
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This is not a rubber for lazy players, it has most of the DHS hurricane 3 characteristics except it does not feel as dead as the Hirricane in the short game but all out speed is inferior to it. Control is great and spin is even better. If you have a strong forehand is probably one of the best rubbers out there for you. You do have to commit to your shots all the time. As a back hand rubber I prefer G1 over this one just because my backhand is weaker and I block a lot on the backhand side. If your backhand is the strongest you may like this rubber on that side as well. My point is that for serves ,short game and open ups is the best but once you step back from the table you will have to use spin variation and placement over pure power and speed. If you are crafty player who likes trick shots like around the net and high spin serves this is the rubber for you. If you are used to carbon blades with Tenergy rubbers do not waste your money on this one. I use this rubber on my forehand on a 5 ply all wood blade and I love it!
Excellent rubber. NIttakus answer to Dignics 09c / rakza z. Absolute beastmode on the FH-side.
The most controlled fh rubber I know. Spin is fantastic. Speed sufficient to win points, while the ball lands where intended. Doesn't feel too hard. Grippy, no slippage. Lower throw then RakzaX, which is great. The rubber will be my first FH choice. Yet to try 09C.
Nothing can be perfect, but after 10 years of trying rubbers I have found my rubber for the BH, and it is perfect. I bought it thinking about putting it in the FH of my Yinhe V-14 Pro (ALC), but I am used to really Chinese rubbers like H3 Neo, Jupiter II, Big Dipper and things like that. I don't like European hybrids like the Tibhar K1 because they end up producing a lot of bounce and the stickiness is not ideal. So I bought the Nittaku Sieger PK50 with some mistrust, thinking of putting it in the FH, I played with it a bit, it is not as hard as they say, I liked it but many balls went far from the table and the throw angle was very high for my taste ... I thought and thought for days what to do and came to the conclusion that this cute black rubber must go on my backhand! I tried it and I was right: never in my life could I execute the BH top with such ease, the shots are killers, deep and with a great rotation effect, all inside the table. The rest of the shots are good too: slice, block, serves: it can help you do everything right! I highly recommend it. (sep/2020) Now using a red 1.8mm BH: amazing feeling and control.
2.0mm version on a Yinhe MC-4 carbon blade, forehand side. Weight cut: 49g. I had hoped for a bit more from this rubber. Now I'm used to play with harder Chinese rubbers like DHS Hurricane 3 NEO 41 deg and Yinhe Moon Pro Hard. The sponge is not as hard as H3N 41deg, but a bit harder than MP. The tacky topsheet is somehow a bit softer than the Chinese rubbers. I had a hard time looping backspin. It often went into the net. I know that this is a German rubber, so comparing with these Chinese rubbers may be a bit misleading. I thought that this one should be similar to Chinese hard rubbers, with its tacky topsheet and hard sponge, but it's not. Short game is good, and it's easy to generate heavy spin in all directions. When looping, the feel you get is that the ball digs in to the rubber in a way that H3N and MP doesn't. Therefore, when playing Chinese style brush looping, you don't get the fast and direct effect that you get with H3N and MP. Of course I should play more with Zieger to give it a chance to show it's qualitys. I've only used it for an hours training yet. *** Update *** Now I tried it on a TSP Reflex 50 Award OFF wooden blade. The feeling was totally different. Even though that the blade is fast, Zieger worked much better with this wooden blade. Better feeling, better loops. Just better.
Agree with the 10s in rating. This is something all in tt-world should test. Its like Yazaka Rakza Z but one step beyond. Would had rated an 11 if there was one! My rubber for ALONG TIME AHEAD!
What a rubber! Great spin and speed together. I use it in forehand. U can spin in different positions and this rubber forgives quite a lot. No disadvantages, maybe availability is one.
Monster 50 degree spin and speed rubber upgrade from G1! Holy Smoke. My new rubber for long, i hope
This is a great rubber for those who like the spin and playstyle of Hurricane or Skyline rubbers but want more control and variation or safety in the short game. Although it has a hard sponge, it isn't as powerful as Hurricane rubbers, it also lacks in spin, but not by much. Placement is easier and durability is longer than Hurricane. It is better suited as a forehand rubber. It doesn't allow great feedback, but it isn't terrible either. Overall, it's a good rubber worth trying if you like hybrid rubbers that lean closer towards Chinese rubber. It allows greater variety of play compaired to Hurricane or Skyline rubbers, but it has lower maxed levels.
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