The best for the beginners or someone that like allwood blades. Price performance there is no better blade. At the time I found it had too much vibration wich gives a good feedback, but when you get used to carbon blades it'll be too much.
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→ Offensive Blades → Tibhar Samsonov Force Pro Black Edition Reviews
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21 Reviews for Tibhar Samsonov Force Pro Black Edition
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A little bit faster and stiffer than stiga clipper. Difficult to play with hard sponge chinese rubber, way more interesting with tensor rubber (vega europe or tenergy 05). With proper tecnique you can accelerate the ball quite on same level of a carbon fast blade with a little more feeling on the brush. I personally prefer sanwei fextra 7 among my 7ply blades cause it has more control but it's only a personal preference.
Good quality Blade, well made and many people Will like what the blade offers. Not exactly stiga clipper but some qualities are there, I prefer the tibhar force pro over this one due to extra flex and aggressiveness that the force pro have. The black addition has maybe slightly better handle and little bit more control on some shots.
Price & Performance product
I used this bat with Tibhar Evolution MX-P 2.1mm rubbers over 6 months in 2021. The weight caught my attention when I first got it. Weight was 194 gr with rubers.
It took time for me to get used to it. I remember having difficulty in control in the first practice. The Tibhar distributor said that I had to train for 300 hours with the bat to get used to it.
Shots and smashes: An outstanding blade on shots and smashes. It is very effective by sending its energy back to the opponent, even in balls that come very hard and full. You can counterattack balls that come fast and spin.
Blocks: The most difficult part in tabletop games was block and service replying. I expected it to be softer, but I saw the ball being thrown too much.
Top spins: It is fast in spins but not as effective as I would like. I think it has to do with the MX-P rubbers. Tenergy series or Yinhe Big Dipper series, which is thinner, lighter and the top layer is more suitable for spin, will be a suitable choice.
I used this bat with Tibhar Evolution MX-P 2.1mm rubbers over 6 months in 2021. The weight caught my attention when I first got it. Weight was 194 gr with rubers.
It took time for me to get used to it. I remember having difficulty in control in the first practice. The Tibhar distributor said that I had to train for 300 hours with the bat to get used to it.
Shots and smashes: An outstanding blade on shots and smashes. It is very effective by sending its energy back to the opponent, even in balls that come very hard and full. You can counterattack balls that come fast and spin.
Blocks: The most difficult part in tabletop games was block and service replying. I expected it to be softer, but I saw the ball being thrown too much.
Top spins: It is fast in spins but not as effective as I would like. I think it has to do with the MX-P rubbers. Tenergy series or Yinhe Big Dipper series, which is thinner, lighter and the top layer is more suitable for spin, will be a suitable choice.
I played for 3m paired with H3 prov. and gewo ELpro43, blade weight is 83 gr. FL. It's very good for blocks and top-spins at the same time - very rare for blades. Maybe not so powerful as some players wanted.
the force pro black edition is a 7 ply off range blade with soft touch and a lot of control.
First of all I found that this blade is not super fast but somewhere between Off- and Off. Also the dwell time is not fast but it gives you the time to create the spin you need. Probably it would be better (in terms of creating spin) if the second layer was limba and not ayus. The control is superb as you actually feel the exact contact point of the ball in the blade. It gives you plenty of information to correct your strokes and to improve your movements but also you can use it under the pressure of tournament matches. I found the handle is comfortable although for my standards I prefer it a little bit thicker, especially in the neck (I order the flare version and maybe the strait version is better). On the downside, I found it a little bit heavy as I pair it with two Donic Barracuda, so I can generate a little bit more spin.
I recommend this blade to intermediate players who wants to improve their movements or for players with a lot of time away from the table. With a Hurricane III rubber it would be the perfect blade for exercise.
Finally this is a blade which does not shine at anything but it does everything right.
Update: ok...I found out that the blade is really head heavy. I compared it with a FEXTRA with the same set up (Donic Baracuda on both sides ) and the sense I had was that the Force pro feels heavier when you top spin or chop. That makes the blade faster but you need to have stamina to execute continuous top spin strokes and it is more difficult to change from forehand to backhand and visa versa. In order to get the max from the blade you need to strengthen your arms and totally your body. If you don't, you will find out that the blade does not forgive errors. Just like Chinese rubbers. FYI do not put Chinese rubber to this blade unless you are a really advance player or pro.
I recommend this blade to intermediate players who wants to improve their movements or for players with a lot of time away from the table. With a Hurricane III rubber it would be the perfect blade for exercise.
Finally this is a blade which does not shine at anything but it does everything right.
Update: ok...I found out that the blade is really head heavy. I compared it with a FEXTRA with the same set up (Donic Baracuda on both sides ) and the sense I had was that the Force pro feels heavier when you top spin or chop. That makes the blade faster but you need to have stamina to execute continuous top spin strokes and it is more difficult to change from forehand to backhand and visa versa. In order to get the max from the blade you need to strengthen your arms and totally your body. If you don't, you will find out that the blade does not forgive errors. Just like Chinese rubbers. FYI do not put Chinese rubber to this blade unless you are a really advance player or pro.
Wonderfull blade (clipper like). Not for beginners because of the weight (mine has handle straight and weights 88g) and the speed.
7ply limba-5ayous-limba. Everything is sanded and rounded out so it has slight premium feel at least visually.
I enjoy the limba outer ply never had opportunity to run my fingers and palm down a naked limba surface but it looks and feels a bit too thin for limba (or maybe because I tried out my buddies newly assembled "joola aruna hinoki off" which had much thicker hinoki top layer and felt superb). I also have a complaint about handle as it feels hollow and too light for my tastes. If i tap on the handle with my fingernail it produces hollow sound which bothers me. Balances out a bit further away from the "BLACK * SERIES" logo on the blade surface which makes it head heavy. For me personally it feels a bit awkward to play with because when I glue heavy and hard modern rubbers onto it the "head-heaviness" makes me grip handle harder and higher up. I have been playing with this blade for about a month so not going to rate it yet.
I enjoy the limba outer ply never had opportunity to run my fingers and palm down a naked limba surface but it looks and feels a bit too thin for limba (or maybe because I tried out my buddies newly assembled "joola aruna hinoki off" which had much thicker hinoki top layer and felt superb). I also have a complaint about handle as it feels hollow and too light for my tastes. If i tap on the handle with my fingernail it produces hollow sound which bothers me. Balances out a bit further away from the "BLACK * SERIES" logo on the blade surface which makes it head heavy. For me personally it feels a bit awkward to play with because when I glue heavy and hard modern rubbers onto it the "head-heaviness" makes me grip handle harder and higher up. I have been playing with this blade for about a month so not going to rate it yet.
14 Nov,2019:Weight=90 gms,good feeling on hands(no annoying vibrations).Amazing for blocks and loops.Black rubber:Joola Mambo-H,Red=Donic bluefire M2.But blocks not ultra fast-but all balls were in-sometime I was surprised that the ball did not shoot out of the table(soft rubber Mambo-H-very nice underrated one).FH loops were easy.Overall feels like a premium blade,special no doubt.
Don't be fooled by this blades ratings. This is for the all round player at a reasonable price but Xiom Diva had far better control in every department for a blade of similar style. It's high speed combined with straight low arc made looping very difficult. This is due to the blades thickness not giving much needed flex . The flip side is usually this characteristic makes blocking better however because it uses softer wood on top as a pose to a hard wood like Koto, blocking was also weaker and the sweet spot was smaller. This was also the conclusion of my teammates when they had a game with each blade. For control, Diva is better than anything I've ever used including my highly sought after $150 Nittaku Acoustic!
A very good blade. I am testing at the moment and i am really suprised how good this blade is.
Simplesmente melhor blade de madeira, 7 folhas! controle absurdo, muito rpida. Perfeita para Loopings, Topspin.
Very good wood blade, nice feel, great handle, good fast/control
Acuda S2 2.0 is great on BH
Acuda S2 2.0 is great on BH
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