Tried this on a Stiga Infinity VPS V. Not a big fan of the rubber but it is ok. The plusside for me is definetly control and feeling. Very easy to control spin and speed from the opponent whether it's blocking against loop or close to the table, serve return etc. Amazing for snakes and chops! When it comes to attack- play, the rubber falls a little bit short for me. Speed is quite slow and you have to practice a lot if you want to find the right technique for playing fast loop- drives. The grip feels really good though and therefore the spin is nice, but not as much as ex. H3N or T05. Especially away from the table you feel this as the opponent quite easily can handle your attacks. Though, I believe you can get decent speed if you use it on a faster blade! Weight is a little downside as it's quite heavy and at the same time doesn't give you that much power. Solid rubber for intermediates, for pros I would use something faster or with more spin instead, as it's a little mediocre.
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I was looking for a hybrid rubber to substitute Hurricane 3 Neo and have partially found it. It loses its tackiness fast but remains grippy for a while. Average durability. Not very sensitive to incoming spin. It is faster than H3N, but not as fast as a tensor rubber. It is not bouncy, until you hit hard. Less spin in serves but very spiny when looping. It is less predictable than H3N but much more predictable than tensors. I am losing a point here and there because of this. I don't have this problem with H3N. I still need the hip rotation and forward arm motion to make it work but requires significantly less effort to play. I am now using it in my backhand on a flexible blade, Stiga Maplewood Nct V. It gives me the extra power without loss of control. It feels more uncontrollable and bouncy on carbon blades. Great at counter looping. Players who are inconsistent with tensor rubbers should consider it, either as a forehand or backhand rubber.
Tested in black max, on the forehand, on a Stiga allround classic and an Xiom Offensive S: Speed is just faster than vega pro in 2.0mm. The feeling is much more chinese-like; just a bit of a thicker contact on the ball than the chinese rubbers (such as h3n) that I've tried before probably due to a softer topsheet. It's extremely easy to control the placement and trajectory, partly because the rubber does not react so much to spin. Another feature of this rubber is its trajectory, which especially away from the table (and especially on the allround classic) comes across as having a very pronounced arc, although you've got to put in some effort to pick up the ball first. As you might have guessed, the spin is high - comparable to vega pro and the like. This feels really safe on the allround classic compared to the offensive s, which in contrast provides quite a bit more speed and a longer trajectory. What sets this rubber apart from euro rubbers is the improved linearity, and the main difference to chinese rubbers is the more elastic, dynamic nature. This rubber would suit an allround-offensive playing style which makes use of spin and placement in addition to speed. Enjoy your TT!
Blade: DHS PG-7
FH: Genesis M
BH: Tin Arc 5
I purchased this rubber from Paddle Palace as part of their Combo Specials. The Genesis was advertised as a fusion between Chinese and European rubbers, so I was interested in the claim. I decided to experiment with this setup, as I usually tend to go Chinese FH and Euro BH, but I tried the opposite to see if their claim was true.
Results: This rubber definitely feels like more of a Euro rubber, it doesn't have the tackiness I expected, but there was some tacky qualities to it. The disappointment, was that it did not suit my playstyle. With longer, full arm strokes, this rubber did poorly, and did not seem to produce the spin and speed I needed. However, when I switched to a more traditional Euro style with a bent elbow, the rubber seemed better suited.
Overall, above average spin and speed, but nothing spin wise to compare with Chinese rubbers, and speed wise to compare with Tenergy. I felt it lacked the final push in speed to give the opponent that danger feeling to take the rally initiative. Just a solid beginner to intermediate rubber to practice technique. As an endnote, definitely some characteristic Chinese qualities(ie. slight tack), but other than that its a Euro rubber that really only suits a certain playstyle.
Would not recommend for competition. Good for practice
FH: Genesis M
BH: Tin Arc 5
I purchased this rubber from Paddle Palace as part of their Combo Specials. The Genesis was advertised as a fusion between Chinese and European rubbers, so I was interested in the claim. I decided to experiment with this setup, as I usually tend to go Chinese FH and Euro BH, but I tried the opposite to see if their claim was true.
Results: This rubber definitely feels like more of a Euro rubber, it doesn't have the tackiness I expected, but there was some tacky qualities to it. The disappointment, was that it did not suit my playstyle. With longer, full arm strokes, this rubber did poorly, and did not seem to produce the spin and speed I needed. However, when I switched to a more traditional Euro style with a bent elbow, the rubber seemed better suited.
Overall, above average spin and speed, but nothing spin wise to compare with Chinese rubbers, and speed wise to compare with Tenergy. I felt it lacked the final push in speed to give the opponent that danger feeling to take the rally initiative. Just a solid beginner to intermediate rubber to practice technique. As an endnote, definitely some characteristic Chinese qualities(ie. slight tack), but other than that its a Euro rubber that really only suits a certain playstyle.
Would not recommend for competition. Good for practice
Used on Stiga All Classic on BH for 2 months. From the first session on very good Feeling. I played chinese Rubbers on the BH before (Friendship Higher), and obviously Genesis M is very different to those. I was looking for a rather fast, yet controllable rubber which allows for flicks, quick punches and strong Counterloops... and found it. performes very well in each of those, also Lifting backspin became easier. I can create crazy amounts of spin. However, the best part in my opinion is that the rubber is not as reactive to the opponents spin, which makes the short game simple and Counters, even against very strong balls, consistent. Great rubber to me,
Note that the tackieness is ok in the beginning, now pretty much gone, but still better grip compared to "normal" Tension Rubbers, meaning that the ball doesnt slip off the rubber when brushing.
I can only recommend this one, I wont change it anymore.
Note that the tackieness is ok in the beginning, now pretty much gone, but still better grip compared to "normal" Tension Rubbers, meaning that the ball doesnt slip off the rubber when brushing.
I can only recommend this one, I wont change it anymore.
Those past seasons, I've played with Vega Pro quite a lot, also spent some time playing with Omega V Pro, TG3 Neo and TG2 Neo. I like spinny and not too dynamic rubbers on my FH.
This Genesis M is a good intermediate between traditionnal chinese rubbers (tacky and "dead", need to put the whole body in the shot to get speed and be effective, very demanding if you're not used to it) and euro-jap rubbers (more dynamic, can get some speed even with shorter strokes). You get a rubber that's not too bouncy, can control the ball well (not too sensitive to incoming spin) and impart a good amount of spin. Short game is good because the rubber is not too bouncy, not as good as a classic tacky chinese rubber but better than usual euro rubbers. Still, you don't need as much power as you do with chinese rubbers, which makes it much more forgiving and easier to get more than decent speed.
In the end, I find that this rubber gets the best of both world, and like it very much. Other players found that in contrary, you don't get a rubber as spinny as chinese rubbers, and more difficult to play than euro rubbers... I guess it depends a lot on what you're used to playing with. Anyway, if you like not too bouncy rubbers with good spin, but don't want / can't play with traditional chinese rubbers, then this one is definitely worth a shot!
Edit after 2 years : I only wish this rubber would exist in "Hard" version. Medium feels too soft for me (I'd say around 42, euro scale), and even though I really appreciate it, I might change for a harder rubber, especially on my forehand.
This Genesis M is a good intermediate between traditionnal chinese rubbers (tacky and "dead", need to put the whole body in the shot to get speed and be effective, very demanding if you're not used to it) and euro-jap rubbers (more dynamic, can get some speed even with shorter strokes). You get a rubber that's not too bouncy, can control the ball well (not too sensitive to incoming spin) and impart a good amount of spin. Short game is good because the rubber is not too bouncy, not as good as a classic tacky chinese rubber but better than usual euro rubbers. Still, you don't need as much power as you do with chinese rubbers, which makes it much more forgiving and easier to get more than decent speed.
In the end, I find that this rubber gets the best of both world, and like it very much. Other players found that in contrary, you don't get a rubber as spinny as chinese rubbers, and more difficult to play than euro rubbers... I guess it depends a lot on what you're used to playing with. Anyway, if you like not too bouncy rubbers with good spin, but don't want / can't play with traditional chinese rubbers, then this one is definitely worth a shot!
Edit after 2 years : I only wish this rubber would exist in "Hard" version. Medium feels too soft for me (I'd say around 42, euro scale), and even though I really appreciate it, I might change for a harder rubber, especially on my forehand.
Way different from Yasaka's Rising Dragon on my Stiga Offensive Classic WRB. The Genesis M has a harder sponge AND a harder topsheet, which isn't tacky at all. This way, it has less dwell time and less control. Throw angle seems a little bit higher, but the ball dips more into the table. I'm still getting used to it. Feels pretty heavy. <> After some time, the feeling of uncontrollability diminished considerably. Maybe the rubber broke in. I also got used to the additional weight of my new setup. Feels very spinny, I've been scoring significantly more with serves and spinny loops. But I still don't find it as reliable as Yasaka's Rising Dragon. There's not that much forgiveness.
Spin machine: 9.6/10
Speed not so much: 8.7/10
Durability: 6.5/10
Throw: medium- medium-low
Mixed blend top sheet and spinge of euro-jap feel
Somewhat bouncy, used with Stellan Bengston Blade Carbon, too slow for me, used for backhand due to Chinese FH but Genesis had amazing serve spin/recieve of FH. Stopped playing cause sponge was very porous and weak when removing glue and had to throw away b/c of sponge durability ripping pieces off
Overall: 8.7/10 recommend for spin oriented/placement players w/faster blades
Speed not so much: 8.7/10
Durability: 6.5/10
Throw: medium- medium-low
Mixed blend top sheet and spinge of euro-jap feel
Somewhat bouncy, used with Stellan Bengston Blade Carbon, too slow for me, used for backhand due to Chinese FH but Genesis had amazing serve spin/recieve of FH. Stopped playing cause sponge was very porous and weak when removing glue and had to throw away b/c of sponge durability ripping pieces off
Overall: 8.7/10 recommend for spin oriented/placement players w/faster blades
this rubber on an AR+ Stellan Bengstton Juic Blade is super spinny on serves, not too good on flicks, the rubber can loop and chop phenomenally. The rubber is somewhat bouncy at times when not expected and can throw off the pushing or blocking. It's good for BH and FH. I preferred it backhand but it started chipping at corner, it was a natural chip, no crazy jagged edges indicating the rubber was intact, the rubber still has insane spin over 3 months, I am replacing because of glueing issues with the sponge. I had a red 2.2 and was good until the quality off the blade made the rubber less appealing with the porous very weak sponge with a couple layers of glue. Would recommend for choppers and people who spin and block for the points, I've tried everything and this one works best.
Loop=extremely spinny but somewhat slow
Block=very good and can punch
Flick=so so but if you are really good and a good paired blade may make it wonderful
Push=sometimes into net w/ lower spin serves but overall good
Punch=so so, it's a spin rubber, does not smash very well, sort of like a Chinese rubber
Spinny like a Tenergy 05 w/o as much speed
Would recommend if you have some spare change and wanna try a euro/china blend, it may be the one for you!
Loop=extremely spinny but somewhat slow
Block=very good and can punch
Flick=so so but if you are really good and a good paired blade may make it wonderful
Push=sometimes into net w/ lower spin serves but overall good
Punch=so so, it's a spin rubber, does not smash very well, sort of like a Chinese rubber
Spinny like a Tenergy 05 w/o as much speed
Would recommend if you have some spare change and wanna try a euro/china blend, it may be the one for you!
Similar to butterfly spin art without the bouncy nature. Heavy, a bit bulky, lots of control. Sponge is hard (not medium) but rubber surface is smooth so this helps you feel and control the ball. Speed is medium. Spin is high but need to get used to the rubber first to exploit its potential. Certainly not tacky but grippy. A side note, I tend to use stiffer blades which have low throw to benefit their blocking abilities.
I used different tacky and semi tacky rubbers including neo skyline tg2 and sword maze red.i enjoyed the genesis most.it has enough speed,good control and high spin.not bouncy,not dead feeling either.it is quite elastic.imo, max thickness is better to use than 2.0mm on an off- blade.i saw here that sponge was rated medium hard,but i think it is just medium
I have played with Genesis M for a while now and I loved this rubber. What I like the most is the spin this rubber is able to generate, my serves got much spinnier and I really like the balance between speed and control. It's kind of different in feel from the earlier Stiga rubbers I have tried, maybe because it's made in China, however I think it feels much more like a euro rubber than a Chinese rubber when it comes to how it plays.
If I compare to Tenergy I think this rubber is more spinny and and got a little higher arc. 9/10.
If I compare to Tenergy I think this rubber is more spinny and and got a little higher arc. 9/10.
This is a fast rubber. The speed and throw remind me of Tenergy 64. The trajectory is low and fast. Spin is decent however the surprise factor here is the speed. Used with a carbon blade, this rubber can send the ball flying. The catapult effect isn't as high as some ESN rubbers so you can play the short game without worrying too much about spin sensitivity. I tried a bounce test vs Donic Bluefire M1 and it's about a ball width lower. Still bouncier than say H3 Neo or Mark V for example. Very good rubber overall.
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